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Saturday, May 21, 2011

The Truth on May 21, 2011

This was from someone who evidently is a believer, and it echoes my views on Harold Camping and his cult.

Good Morning, In regards to the end of the world.
There will be a End. However, it is not known. In addition, we should not speculate. These people are baring false witness. The Bible warns us of these people and other things. (We must pray for them as well).
Furthermore, the Bible says, the "End of The Ages" not the end of the world, as some of has/have been taught, whether, through tradition or deceit. God will return, one day. When? No man knows! many people are adding a twist to Gods word etc...

God said that certain events and signs will take place. They are the "Birth Pains" as a woman in travail (unquoted) But the point is to be ready and wait patiently on the Lord. Is God talking? Yes! However, he is/uses love and well as wrath. But he will never hold us for things we do not know. But once we gain knowledge, then it is our job to teach, turn away and live as he (God) will have us to. I can go on but I won't. God is good and we shall behold his face one day. When is totally on him. Be Blessed!
The Book of Matthew, Daniel and Revelation all describes certain things/events. Along with other scriptures.

Matthew 24:36-44 declares, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father…Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come…So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him." At first glance, these verses would seem to provide a clear and explicit answer to the question. No, no one can know when Jesus is coming back. However, those verses do not say that no one will ever be able to know when Jesus will return. Most Bible scholars would say that Jesus, now glorified in Heaven, knows the timing of His return, indicating that the phrase "nor the Son" does not mean Jesus will never know when He will return. Similarly, it is possible that, while Matthew 24:36-44 indicates that no one at that time could know the timing of Jesus' return, God could reveal the timing of Jesus' return to someone in the future.

In addition, there is Acts 1:7, which states, "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority." This was said by Jesus after the disciples asked Him if He was at that time going to restore the kingdom to Israel. This would seem to confirm the message of Matthew 24. It is not for us to know the timing of Jesus coming back. But, there is also the question of to which return these passages are referring. Are they speaking of the rapture or the second coming? Which return is unknowable—the rapture, the second coming, or both? While the rapture is presented as being imminent and mysterious, the timing of the second coming could potentially be pinpointed based on end-times prophecy.
With that said, let us be abundantly clear: we do not believe that God has revealed to anyone when Jesus is coming back, and we see nothing in Scripture which indicates that God will ever reveal to anyone when Jesus is coming back. Matthew 24:36-44, while spoken directly to the people in Jesus' time, also contains a principle.

The timing of Jesus' return and the end of the age is not for us to know. Scripture nowhere encourages us to try to determine the date. Rather, we are to "keep watch, because we do not know on which day our Lord will come" (v. 42). We are to "be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when we do not expect Him" (v. 44). The force of Jesus' words diminishes if at some point in the future someone will be able to determine when Jesus is coming back. If the date is discovered, we no longer need to "keep watch" or "be ready" until the date is approaching. So, with the principle of Matthew 24:36-44 is mind, no, it is not possible for anyone to know the date that Jesus is coming back.

Despite this clear biblical principle, many throughout Christian history have attempted to prophesy the date that Jesus is coming back. Many such dates have been proposed, and all of them have been wrong. Today, there are two popular proposed dates: May 21, 2011, and December 21, 2012. The December 21, 2012, date is related to the Mayan calendar, with no biblical data used as evidence. The May 21, 2011, date is proposed by Harold Camping of Family Radio. It should be noted that Harold Camping previously predicted that Jesus would come back in 1994. Obviously, Camping was wrong. This should give us yet another reason to doubt the validity of his prediction of May 21, 2011. Camping, does, however, claim to find evidence for the May 21, 2011, date in Scripture. By using a speculative date of 4990 B.C. for the Flood, and then applying the "with the Lord one day is as a thousand years" of 2 Peter 3:8 to the seven days of Genesis 7:4, and then counting down the 7000 years from 4990, the year 2011 results. Then, based on "the seventeenth day of the second month" from Genesis 7:11 and using the Hebrew calendar, the date of May 21 is determined. So, is there any validity to Camping's methodology?

First, Camping conveniently ignores the second half of 2 Peter 3:8, "and a thousand years as one day." Further, 2 Peter 3:8 is not providing a method for dating the end times. Rather, 2 Peter 3:8 is simply saying that God is above and beyond time. God is timeless, infinite, and eternal. Second, nothing in the context of Genesis 7:4-11 indicates that the "seven days" and "seventeenth day of the second month" are to be interpreted as applying to anything other than what God was specifically saying to Noah. Third, the Flood being dated to 4990 B.C. is speculative at best, with no explicit biblical evidence. Camping's calculation of May 21, 2011, falls apart with even the most basic biblical scrutiny. Now, is it possible that Jesus is coming back on May 21, 2011? Yes, but it is just as possible that He will come back on any other date. Does Harold Camping's particular dating methodology have any biblical validity? No, it does not. Assuming that Jesus does not return on or before May 21, 2011, Camping and others will surely calculate new future dates and will attempt to explain away mistakes by "errors in the formula" or something to that effect.

The key points are (1) the Bible nowhere encourages us to attempt to discover the timing of Jesus' return, and (2) the Bible gives no explicit data by which the timing of Jesus' return can be determined. Rather than developing wild and speculative calculations to determine when Jesus is coming back, the Bible encourages us to "keep watch" and "be ready" (Matthew 24:42-44). The fact that the day of Jesus' return is unknown is what should motivate us to live every day in light of the imminence of Christ's return.

Most of this Info, has been researched. Some of it is from and of my thoughts and the Bible

From My Perspective:
1. As this fellow believer stated, Matthew 24:36 and Acts 1:7 state that ONLY Christ knows when he is returning.
2. Also I Thessalonians 4:15-18 and I Corinthians 15:51-52 state that there WILL be a moment in which all those who have accepted Christ as savior, will be taken from this earth, to meet the Lord. It is known as the Rapture, but it doesn't happen the way Camping says.
3. Those who are Left Behind, will face SEVEN years of the worst horrors imaginable, but God will use it to bring those left behind to faith in Him. Many will pay with their lives, but God will still win.

WE need to very carefully examine all claims of Christ's coming, especially when they try to put an exact date and time on it. Most of all, we need to continue to share Christ with a dying and lost world without these false prophets getting in the way.

For anyone who truly wants to know how to be saved, go to this link, and if you have any questions feel free to contact me.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

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